Curse

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 12:30 PM // 12:30

16 Death
13 Soul Reaping
X Blood

1. Animate Bone Horror
2. Animate Shambling Horror
3. Summon Mursaat
4. Summon Naga Shaman
5. Summon Ice Imp or Summon Ruby Djinn
6. Glyph of Renewal [e]
7. Hexer's Vigor
8. Signet of Lost Souls

or

1. Animate Bone Horror
2. Animate Vampiric Horror
3. Summon Ice Imp or Summon Ruby Djinn
4. Summon Mursaat
5. Summon Naga Shaman
6. Glyph of Renewal [e]
7. Dark Bond
8. Signet of Lost Souls

This will definatly need need some Testing/Work

The concept behind the idea here is to bypass the 10 creature limitation of the Minion Master

Since the addition of the Summon Creature skills linked to the Asura title track, the concept of being able to work around the 10 minion limit seems to have been lifted but yet untested.

These Summoned Creatures come fully packed with skills that they use and look like an awesome addition to any Minion Master.

The problem with these Summons is the incredibly long recharge time on them. This is where Glyph of Renewal comes in, which I have used in many builds I have created so far, which instantly renews the skill used after it, and recharges in 10 seconds, enabling you to recast your Summons.

The problem I already see, is that with all 3 summons, a self heal, a minion heal and Glyph of Renewal, this only leaves room for 2 minion types: Bone Horrors which recharges very fast, and Shambling Horrors, which I still like. Bone Horrors should recharge fast enough for you to start raising an army, Shambling Horrors could be replaced with something else, but I think Bone Fiends would be too energy intensive for this already energy hungry build.

Its also left to see if you gain Soul Reaping from Summoned Creatures which could even possibly leave a corpse or not.

This concept is very experimental since the game doesnt come out until Friday.

Its not sure which of these Summon Creatures is the best so far but they look powerful indeed

Theoretically the build should give you the ability to command 10 mindless minions and 4 powerful summoned creatures that use skills

I take credit for the concept and would love input and help making the build

Elena · Aug 29, 2007, 01:27 PM // 13:27

you can only have 3 pve skills

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 01:42 PM // 13:42

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Originally Posted by Elena

you can only have 3 pve skills

Ah, good call.

Thank you for telling me this, I was unaware of this fact. Re-assigning skills now

Stormlord Alex · Aug 29, 2007, 05:13 PM // 17:13

I'd definately run Ruby Djinn over Ice Imp, Ice Spikes as a lone skill is weak.
I'd also opt for Dark Bond over Hexer's Vigor, because Bond is srssly awesome.
Probably pack BotM and spam one minion skill (Fiends rawk), instead of 2 minions and no heal. Other than that? ... Can't really say till I get to play around with the Summon skills meself.

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 05:43 PM // 17:43

Dark Bond is an awesome skill. Do you not think that Hexer's Vigor is an incredible skill though?

At 13 Soul Reaping it would give you +7 Health Regen for 10 seconds with no catch. Its basically the sollution to going N/D with Mystic Regeneration which nets you +9 energy regen but only with Dark Bond + Infuse Conditions and Mystic Regen, costing you 20 energy for +9 regen for 20 seconds

Hexer's Vigor is +7 regen with no catch, 5 energy and recharges every 10 seconds.

Although Fiends are very powerful, I think they may be too energy hungry for the build, depending how much Summons may end up costing in energy.

Where can I see written information on only being able to bring 3 PvE skills? I havent tried it but this is the first i hear of it.

Dr Strangelove · Aug 29, 2007, 05:55 PM // 17:55

Does dark bond work with non-undead summons?

Stormlord Alex · Aug 29, 2007, 06:02 PM // 18:02

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Originally Posted by Zodiak

Where can I see written information on only being able to bring 3 PvE skills? I havent tried it but this is the first i hear of it.

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20070823

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 06:12 PM // 18:12

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Originally Posted by Dr Strangelove

Does dark bond work with non-undead summons?

I Dont think it would, Dark Bond specifically states "Minions" but it would be used for your other minions

Theoretically you WOULD have 10 minions +3 Summoned Creatures

Yet to be proven if they give you Soul Reaping or leave corpses. This is all experimental but I believe it could give serious power to Minion Masters.

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Originally Posted by Stormlord Alex

http://gw.gamewikis.org/wiki/Game_updates/20070823

Ah dangit... thank you for that information

AlienFromBeyond · Aug 29, 2007, 06:15 PM // 18:15

The Ebon Vanguard spell that summons an Assassin for a short time definitely leaves a corpse and activates Soul Reaping, so I expect the Asura summons to be the same.

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

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Originally Posted by AlienFromBeyond

The Ebon Vanguard spell that summons an Assassin for a short time definitely leaves a corpse and activates Soul Reaping, so I expect the Asura summons to be the same.

The Summon ACTUALLY LEAVES a corpse????

Can you say OMG?

Activate all 3 spirits first, let them do the dirty work, raise 3 minions, summon 3 spirits again...

I"m loving this more and more!

Ebon Vanguard only lasted 10 seconds on lvl1, I hope you can seriously extend those times.

Zodiak · Aug 29, 2007, 06:29 PM // 18:29

It also does not state that you can have only 1 of a certain Summon up at once, leading me to believe maybe multiples?

Why isnt it friday yet?

MBP · Aug 29, 2007, 08:21 PM // 20:21

you're not just limited to a necro with those summons either..a Rt would probably do well with them too.

ooo imagine a SF nuker with summon ruby djinn?
I expect immediate nerfing to follow.

Amadeo · Aug 30, 2007, 07:29 PM // 19:29

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Spell. Summon a level X Mursaat that lives for Y seconds and has Enervating Charge. Only 1 Asura Summon can be active at a time.

As all of those Summons are based on Asura Rank, you'll only be able to have one active.

Amadeo · Aug 30, 2007, 07:37 PM // 19:37

Edit: This post can be deleted

Zodiak · Aug 31, 2007, 11:49 AM // 11:49

N/E

16 Death
14 Soul Reaping
x Blood

Dark Bond
Animate Bone Horror
Animate Shambling Horror
Signet of Lost Souls
Hexer's Vigor
Blood of the Master
Glyph of Renewal
Summon Ruby Djinn or Summon Mursaat

Well that sucks that they just now decided to make it so that you can only have 1 Summon up at the same time. I still think that since they decided to do so, Summons must be a powerful skill indeed.

With Glyph of Renewal, you would still be able to Summon a Creature every 10 seconds, allowing you to either Heal it (not known if it actually has health yet) or Renew its timer.

You COULD use the same build and have Two Summons in the build, depending what the situation calls for, but you can still only have 1 up at a time apparently. Maybe that will change.

Elena · Sep 02, 2007, 11:29 PM // 23:29

promotes team play i guess 4 summons 4 more targets and damage to add to youre team :P

Coloneh · Sep 03, 2007, 06:05 AM // 06:05

needs a rez unless its a solo build. then it needs healing

xanarot · Sep 10, 2007, 06:00 PM // 18:00

perhaps it could have 2 summons with the vanguard assassin (at least it only says max 1 asura summon, not just 1 max).

Zodiak · Sep 10, 2007, 06:23 PM // 18:23

I actually changed to this build since you havent been able to use two summoned creatures.

It's my Necrotic Ebon Summoner from the other thread.

1. Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom (up to 60% chance to Half Skill Recharge for party)
2. Animate Shambling Horror
3. Animate Bone Fiend (or Horror's if want to play closer)
4. Ebon Battle Standard of Honor (for +dmg like Order of Undeath)
5. (Healing Skill) Still unknown yet
6. Signet of Lost Souls
7. Blood of the Master
8. Summon Ruby Djinn

It's still very offensive and supports the entire party with Ebon Battle Standard of Wisdom, giving them up to 60% chance of Half Skill Recharge

Yeah I've thought of the Ebon Vanguard Assassin Suport but I just dont like somehow that even if you max out the Ebon Vanguard title track that it will only last 20 seconds of the 30 second recharge.

With the current skills im using, I woudnt have room for it.

Sprites · Sep 12, 2007, 11:53 PM // 23:53

i'm not often in front lines with my minions , so i'd drop standard of honor for a damage skill i can't leave , necrosis